H1N1

Aug. 11th, 2009 08:43 am
dmjewelle: (persona3)
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H1N1 is...stressing me out for the wrong reasons.

For the 50 gazillion people who haven't heard from me lately, I've been putting in extra hours at work due to the pandemic. My department (Microbiology/Serology) handles a type of screening test for respiratory viruses (we call it the RSV test), of which currently me and my colleague are the only two people who know how to run this test because it is entirely manual (except for a nifty fluorescent microscope). Since it's done in-house and detects Influenza A (but NOT H1N1), doctors have been using it as an alternative (more expensive too!) to throat swabs sent to IMR for H1N1 detection. So from what used to be maybe 5-6 samples a week, we're getting 20-30 samples a DAY.



This is where it gets annoying, I'll try to put it out in point form ([livejournal.com profile] maxsterism might appreciate this).

- The general stats look like this: Out of half the samples, half will be positive. Half of the positive samples will be Influenza A. So if I have 20 patients, 10 will be positive; 5 will be Influenza A positive. Influenza A also has strains, so keeping that in mind the percentage of H1N1 people is further reduced.

- The majority of the samples come from children, which usually involve very worried parents who will call every half an hour to ask if the results are ready, which then the clinic staff will call US, which then answering their stupid phone call eats into processing time, which then they complain that the test is taking too damn long. HELLO, the SOP has always been TWO WORKING DAYS until you yobbos were convinced you were going to die from the plague! Except for the 20 day-old newborn who had Influenza A and the doc cursed like a sailor when I notified the results (after overtiming for an hour). You're exempt.

- The reason for that 2 working days thing is because the test has 2 stages:
a) The screening divides the patients into positive and negative cases
b) The ID specifically identifies the type of virus (Influenza A is one out of 7 types detected)

- Logic dictates that the more samples you have, the longer a test takes since you have to vortex and centrifuge and blahblahblahinsertscientifictermshere. Thus a batch of 20-25 can take up to 6 hours just SCREENING. We had to impose a cut-off time of 10AM so that people sending in their samples at 5 PM don't think they have the right to a RESULT. You think this test takes 5 minutes issit? GO DIE. =__=

- Despite an email sent out to the doctors about the test specifications (what type of specimen, when to send it in, when to expect results), it has become clear not only do doctors not check their email (too busy making money to turn on PC?), they also don't READ and they have the most unrealistic expectations since cosplayers. Just last Sunday my colleague called me from work saying a doctor wanted the results of her screening test sent on Friday 3PM (which was suspected positive anyway but wasn't) and if the parents scream some more she'll just send them to scream at us. So now not only am I expected to give out the full results within one working day, I'm also expected to put in 6 hours of work EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK. I had to work from 8-2 on Saturday just finishing the screening, and you expect me to do this because....? IMR clearly states that they will NOT process samples on weekends and public holidays haha no way no how you wish la and I don't understand why the doctors here expect otherwise from the in-house test when we told them only TWO people run this test, and it's not a general "pop this into the machine DING results out" test.

- To add insult to injury, the vendor provided a new brand of medium which gave me problems for 2 days because I couldn't see ANYTHING under the microscope. It wasn't until yesterday when they sent their product specialist to watch me work that we figured out the problem (needed more phosphate buffer) and fixed it and I didn't get a chance to say NEENER NEENER NEENER to my boss because we had an argument about our methodology. IT WORKED THE LAST 100 SAMPLES LAST YEAR, THIS PROBLEM STARTED WHEN WE GOT THE NEW TUBES GOD DAMN IT, IT'S NOT A METHOD ISSUE! =__=

-As if it wasn't enough, the hospital's ER has been PACKED with people every night since last Monday. Like...30 people to take blood from in 5 hours? My marathon record is 5 patients - I've never been desperate to even prick children until now. Fingerpricks take up to 20 minutes, veins take 5. When you're rushing for time, you take the easiest route. After wearing a mask continuously for 5 hours, I was pretty lightheaded after that. Imagine doing this the whole day. Every day. @__@

My reasons to looking forward to GACC went from wanting to cosplay --> wanting to spend time with bf --> wanting to just get away from work for 4 days. That's how stressful it's been. Ask [livejournal.com profile] kimlim, he'll vouch for it.



So all that said, what's my point?

- I'm trying to say that while the percentage of H1N1 is low, it's also no fun to have everyone coughing into your face and having your sleeve grabbed and being asked if you're going to die every single minute of the day. Sure being healthy reduces your chances of dying because it's not the Spanish flu, but that's like saying being healthy protects you from cholera. Currently people aren't dying because their immunity can take it or the virus isn't that strong. But when you have reports of Tamiflu-resistant H1N1 emerging, figuring when the 2nd wave will come is like a time bomb. If we're all sodded, the mutation will probably be resistant to everything and kill able-bodied people like the Spanish flu did. When that time comes, you won't even be bitching whether you can make it for GACC because you'll be too busy trying to stay alive.

- While you might be strong enough to combat H1N1, there are people who aren't. There'll be small kids at GACC, definitely. Say you had mild symptoms. You accidentally cough in the vicinity of a child. That child gets H1N1, but you'll never know because there'll be thousands in the hall and anyone could've given the kid the flu. Masks help, but eventually face and breath moisture will render the masks useless and you'll need to change it often since the virus spreads through fluids. It's not so much as protecting yourself from the flu as it is protecting others from it.

- People complaining about the lack of Tamiflu is also not legit. Antivirals are expensive and in limited supply (we're not Australia who has enough to vaccinate EVERYBODY. Yes. Even [livejournal.com profile] flat_foot. And [livejournal.com profile] aitakute. And especially [livejournal.com profile] hooli. Hooli~! T_T), and there's the normal flu going around to boot. The chances of you having H1N1 is 1 in 20 people (just sayin'), and if we give out Tamiflu like raffle tickets we won't have enough for the ONE unfortunate bugger who HAS H1N1. Like [livejournal.com profile] hisashi_glay. You better not be taking our Tamiflu supply, bloody hoarder.

- H1N1 samples require a throat swab. Having taken a throat swab a few weeks back and gagged like a MOFO in ER, this is the ONLY reason I don't want to catch it. >_____<

- I'm not going to GACC. You shouldn't too. It's a social responsibility.



OH CRAP I'M LATE. Here, read this while you wait! ><



PS: Maximum distance of transmission for H1N1 virus: 1 meter.

Date: 2009-08-11 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yinghua.livejournal.com
AMEN to that.

Date: 2009-08-11 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kemuridono.livejournal.com
My reasons to looking forward to GACC went from wanting to cosplay --> wanting to spend time with bf --> wanting to just get away from work for 4 days. That's how stressful it's been. Ask [info]kimlim, he'll vouch for it. </>

Amen. Well, technically I've still got my leave signed: so it's anyone's guess what the heck I'm going to do then.

Date: 2009-08-11 02:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kemuridono.livejournal.com
And speaking of social responsibility, some of the forummers' attitudes towards this is making me RAAEEEGGG to a point that I damn well hope they get a taste of Influenza A.

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Date: 2009-08-11 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slay-x.livejournal.com
as I read more I figure I shouldn't be goin...in that case I need to organise a mini event of my own to recover my cost in stock orders...my poor cc-s...they need to be paid back soon...^^;;

well...if we all ain't goin...we could do something else I suppose...see how

Date: 2009-08-11 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistressnaoko.livejournal.com
*pats* Enjoy the extra days of making out with Kim Lim!

Still going to GACC, am going to see cousins while I'm there too. Plus I really need the sanity time away from parents. Else depression = lower chances of fighting off H1N1A

Date: 2009-08-11 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dmjewelle.livejournal.com
HAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHA YOU WISH. XP

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Date: 2009-08-11 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peanutcase.livejournal.com
there there.. hopefully i wont need to add burden to ur screening.
wanna stay healthy....!!!!!
ack.. not sure if im able to go GACC also.

Date: 2009-08-11 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hexlord.livejournal.com
I would most likely go for GACC, since I am technically coming from a country that was considered as a hotspot as well (SG gave up on keeping track of the confirmed cases after 500+ ?). I personally think that if the reason of social responsibility be used for not going for GACC, the GACC comm members should unanimously shut the event down based on that very same reason.

That being said, I don't mind staying back here in KL during the weekend too.

*was referred here by Mintos, haha*

Date: 2009-08-11 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dmjewelle.livejournal.com
I personally think that if the reason of social responsibility be used for not going for GACC, the GACC comm members should unanimously shut the event down based on that very same reason.

I agree, but if they're not going to do it, there's no reason for me to be as reckless as them.

Date: 2009-08-11 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dmjewelle.livejournal.com
Btw, hope you enjoy yourself at GACC! ^^/ Looking forward to your photos!

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Date: 2009-08-11 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flat-foot.livejournal.com
That couple of jobless months of staying at home like a hermit has definitely helped /o/ People here don't wear masks and the problem about the flu here is that it's also winter. Even though we've had the biggest amount of swine flu cases, esp in Melbourne, I'm quite glad that the people around me are taking care of themselves.

Touch wood *touches some wood* even when 3 out of 4 of us has fallen sick, this is one winter I've managed to stay flu-less. My theory? I've been eating a lot of fruits compared to other years. They must be the reason!

Anyway, my 2 cents... Take precautions, eat well, boost your immune system and don't over exert yourself (no, none of that 'masturbation' or 'homosexual sex' crap but drinking alcohol heavily and staying up late) that you will be susceptible to any bloody virus.

Date: 2009-08-11 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dmjewelle.livejournal.com
I hear Australia gave up on controlling ages ago (according to Doris). I think in your case you stayed at home so much you didn't get anything. Hooray for CP x ZP!

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Date: 2009-08-11 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chocolime.livejournal.com
I take leave lagi for gacc..sedih. oh well. I'll have to be in melaka anyway during the weekend. BF's bro is leaving for US nxt week so we gotta to back melaka during the weekend anyway. Sry GACC.. but you are no go.

My bro n sis work/study in mmu =_=; they rly gotta be careful. Im srprised they haven't lock down MMu just because its HOLIDAYS. There are students still in MMU for holiday stayover, assignement, project, club u know!

D:

Date: 2009-08-11 04:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dmjewelle.livejournal.com
You me Kemu all took leave and now I have no idea what to do for 4 days...sedih...

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Date: 2009-08-11 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] futomimii.livejournal.com
That's surely an insight to things from the medical side! I won't be going either because all of my friends have come to the consensus that we aren't (half of them are getting shipped off overseas in a month, would be damned risky if either of them fell sick) so yeah. D:

Date: 2009-08-11 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evo7gal.livejournal.com
Okay, will be passing this to my mum for her to read and understand the real situation of H1N1 since she has the tendency to overglorify the media's reporting of H1N1. As she's miffed upon my action to deduce her with a communication theory/tell her that she's overworrying, this MIGHT give her a chance to take a breather or two and stop worrying about my situation since every effing person in UiTM seems to be down with H1N1 either way and I do not want to extend a semester =_=

Btw, this is one of the weekends that I'm actually free too (!). Outing anywhere anyone? Though I'll wear a mask since mum is anal about me being anywhere within the vicinity of hospitals/ Subang Jaya as of late so extra precautions is to be taken if I head out ._.

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Date: 2009-08-11 05:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silvennia.livejournal.com
*stares*

mmmm......you're making me torn that's for sure =/

I want to go, because GACC is one of the few events I get to hang out with everybody since I'm not much of a social person, and I don't get to meet everyone at one go. Plus I get to cosplay! (lol lame reason)

On the other hand, I don't want to get infected, normal flu or otherwise. It takes me weeks just to recover from a simple bout of flu (the last attacked for almost a month) and I hated it =-=;; plus, from the look of things, not many people attending? D:

*scratches head*

Date: 2009-08-11 06:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ilunari.livejournal.com
Forget about the previous comment.

Just to say that the entry is enough to prove that H1N1 is not really "End of the World" situation and there are many more cases to be worry about (like yours)

Still think that I'm glad for staying indoor right now + on the right track of not going back to Malaysia for GACC.

Date: 2009-08-11 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hikaraseru.livejournal.com
Just saw this.
I'm going to sound a bit cynical here but I think if avoiding GACC is a social responsibility (avoiding social gatherings to avoid contracting flu), why are there still remarks on going anywhere at all during the time that's been suddenly freed up? If we want to be safe 100%, let's all stay at home and watch TV and not have any social contact at all. :O In fact, let's not just do it because of GACC this weekend, but let's do it until the H1N1 virus disappears! After all, we only have to be within one meter of someone to get the flu. Food courts, restaurants, shopping malls, buses, LRTs...these can't have been spared last I checked.

My point here is that this whole thing got blown up just because it was GACC and the fact that Malacca is a hotspot. But in context, a hotspot of what? Clusters of identified infected cases? How does that compare, to say, London, where there are 100,000 cases a week at last announcement (June/July)?

I think instead of stressing that we should be avoiding these events, we should be stressing that people who are sick with fever and flu symptoms should just stay at home, and that way they'll keep the others safe as well. That's the stance the UK NHS is taking, and that's the stance we as responsible citizens should be taking as well.

I am personally still heading to GACC. I apologise for the tone of this, but this post isn't to blame anyone,just to point out that I think that there could maybe possibly be a slight overextension of the situation at hand here. I'm worried about my family/myself contracting the virus, but at this point I honestly don't feel like skipping an event like GACC will make a terribly huge difference.

In short, in terms of protecting others from a possibility of yourself contracting the flu, I agree with Dimmie - skip GACC if you think you have H1N1! If not, and you just want to protect yourself, I don't think going to GACC or not will make a difference.

P/s: Masks, unless they are the stiff ones, have scientifically been proven not to filter viruses away from your nose/mouth region. They stop you from spreading your own cough/cold/flu, but not contracting it from someone else.

Date: 2009-08-11 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dmjewelle.livejournal.com
That's a good point, and granted if we want to protect ourselves we should self-quarantine pretty much.

The problem starts when there are people who are not aware they have H1N1. The symptoms for this and seasonal flu are similar, and if you're healthy enough, chances are you could have gotten it and you wouldn't know you have H1N1 even after it's gone. In other words, going out in public makes you a vector for transmission, and people with flu here take 2 routes: freaking out, or not caring.

(http://maxsterism.livejournal.com/187857.html) --> pimpin'

In the end you're more likely to catch the flu sitting in the hospital's ER than GACC, but in an enclosed area such as GACC's venue with potentially thousands crowding it, it's as much of a crapshoot as sitting in a bus.

Hope you enjoy yourself, in any case! ^^

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Date: 2009-08-12 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tokiyakun.livejournal.com
oh j00 are not going too? :( i tot of organizing a sausage party! jk

Daicon comm must be laughing their ass off right now

Date: 2009-08-12 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dmjewelle.livejournal.com
GACC comm must have done some seriously bad mojo for this to happen, really.

Sausage party! Mmm.

Date: 2009-08-13 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sringangel.livejournal.com
Eh all come down penang!
\*W*/

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